Well, Virgil's got a point here, like him or not. Most states are open carry states, and the police officers should know that. The "right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is a fundamental Constitutional right that I thought they taught to elementary school kids, there is no reason why Beavercreek Police shouldn't know that.
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Are we sure that the police are the real problem in this situation? Truth is, a group of gun fanatics which the author Virgil Vaduva is part of strap guns to their belts like the wild west and attempt to draw the attention of the public along with police. They attempt to lure the police into taking legal action against them so they can scream about rights violations and draw negativity and lawsuits. Sounds to me like Virgil and his narcissistic crew need a lot of attention to make them feel good about themselves. I'm all for citizens owning and carrying CONCEALED guns for protection. I'm not at all for guys like this author who uncooperatively taunt police under the guise of civil rights. Shame on you Virgil
Virgil,
Unfortunately, the problems you describe are not just local to Xenia; they are practically everywhere in the US. The people have lost the concept of the rule of law, so they don't notice when their own governments are breaking the law. Nor do they seem to care much.
I've been searching, and one thing I cannot find. Sure, you can name a town that's known for its art, or its music, or its antiques. You can even name some cities that are known for their geographic beauty or their history. But can anyone name a town in the US that is known for having a just and uncorrupted government?
I can agree with the general good-natured tone of the letter. Being courteous and polite to folks is preferable to acting vicious and nasty. But one wonders what they mean by "the dangers of assumptions and stereotypes about one's beliefs."
It may be presumptuous to infer the day-to-day Muslim would react with violence toward any who would burn the Koran. Granted. He may or may not. But I don't need to assume how a typical Islamic leader will react. Not at all. He'd kill the infidel. Period.
I, for one, am weary of the soft-peddling this issue receives.
That's a good observation of old "Honest Abe," whose federal reign was the very antithesis of States' rights. We may not be far from having that scenario repeated. After all, if the State of Arizona cannot act, seeking to enforce existing federal law the federal government refuses to enforce, without receiving a backlash from Washington, imagine how bent out of shape Washington would get when a State opts to secede. You will note I did not say if.
Your man Jefferson also stated that "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Both groups water the tree. The tyrant dies because his tyranny becomes unacceptable, and he does not relinquish his despotic rule sans death. The patriot bleeds because he resists what the common man has already accepted, i.e. temporary safety in lieu of essential liberty.
Were there no tyrants, there would be no need for a patriot or two. But our current circumstance is hardly novel; that foul stench blowing down from Washington has been a long time reeking.
If you are aware of a conspiracy behind these events, please drop me a note and I would be happy to report on it...there is no hidden agenda here. If you have evidence of misconduct, share it and we''ll investigate. The timing does in fact appear suspect, but it could also be just an appearance.
Interesting that there are several accounts of this incident including the kids parents asking that it be dropped. Suddenly someone decides to pull it back out and make a big deal about it. Is this a cover up to sneak something pass the citizens? While this is making headlines what is going on on page 2? I do not trust anyone in power in this town anymore. There are too many unanswered questions in this matter.
Why did it take almost 2 months for this to be front page news? Why did this get opened after Mr. Louderback questioned the Council? Was there another vehicle involved and what does that driver say? Why did the driver want this all dropped and afraid it would hurt his military career?
What exactly would a course in American history tell me that would convince me that the flag is not a temporary physical symbol of the indestructible idea of freedom?
You have demonstrated my point, by being willing to crush the freedom of political speech of others because you are emotionally upset by their actions. That is how freedom is lost.
The symbol of freedom is not tantamount to the notion of freedom itself. The flag should never be confused with the Republic, for the latter is always greater. The respect we afford The Stars and Stripes may be misplaced, to the extent we fail in our duty as citizens to secure liberty for the next generation.
The issue isn't the desecration of a hallowed icon of blood-bought freedom from tyranny. The gist of the matter is liberty itself, in whatever form it is symbolized.
But more to the point, if your actions deprive no one of property or liberty--flag-burning comes to mind--then I've no business enacting legislation which prohibits you from doing something I don't like.
That's freedom.
It's not hampered by my personal etiquette. It's not bounded by your likes and dislikes. It's not even governed by our sense of national pride. Freedom means I'm at liberty to govern myself, as I see fit, so long as I do you no harm.
Honored Veteran, don't be too quick to suggest which cherished opinions of yours ought to be made into law. Far lesser men than you have done so, and continue to do so, as our present profligate government testifies. Thus, the freedom you rightfully and proudly served to protect is today but a hollow shell of what it used to be.
Jefferson uttered: "Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."
Kind Sir, I respectfully suggest *you* take a course in American history.
Well Sir, I would have to agree with you that most people would take offense to the burning of the flag because they see it as a blatanly anti-American act; a spit in the eye and a slap in the face to every hard-working God-fearing American and every soldier that ever fought for our freedom.
I served 20 years in the Military and am proud of the service that I did for my country. If I had it to do all over again, I would definitely do it.
Sure you could go burn a flag, but don't ask for any help from me nor will I condone it. In my opinion it should be illegal to burn the flag except when doing so to properly and honorably dispose of a used flag.
As for the flag being a temporary physical symbol, I respectfully suggest you take a course in American history.
As an Army veteran, it won't be the first item I reach for when I wish to burn a symbol to make a statement. Honestly, it won't. However, if I do feel like burning it--and I might--then I expect to do so without someone's illogical and insensitive laws attempting to regulate my offensive liberties.
In other words, I refuse to entertain someone's fetish concerning the flag.
You put it well: burning a flag is a perceived assault on our freedom. Let those cry over it who will, as they likely perceive little else.
Fairborn at least is listening to and talking to residents...maybe at least just pretending, but at least they are going through the motions. The Xenia City Council is not even pretending anymore!
Disappointing, no matter my opinion of the levy or income stream...to place the Levy in Xenia back on the ballot, with out really trying to talk with the public, is a bit insulting. At least a town hall or public meeting should have been held, or even written opinions asked for. No attempt, to my knowledge, to find out what it would take to pass a levy, with a clearer margin then 1%...if the same plan is ran and passes, would we not then have to run it again to have a tie-breaker, Ha-Ha...I joke, but seriously. How do you market the same product after 1/2 your citizens did not buy it?
A little bit of honesty would go a long way. The most unfortunate part of it all is... they are not merely deceive us, but themselves as well.
I do see some advantage to marrying ones dog though. When things get too, ummm... difficult to bear, you can simply have your... partner? put to sleep.
Many liberals are actually themselves "corporate cronies" so they may not control the government in a conspiratorial sense, but they have a great amount of influence on government policies; if this was not true, we would not have the huge number of lobbyists in washington.
The latest number I saw was 34,750 for the number of registered lobbyists in D.C. - those are the legit ones. Probably there are 4 times as many who are working underground to sway and move politicians to create laws and regulations to favor their corporate clients. Crony capitalism rules our nation right now...I don't think only liberals believe that.
Freedom would be the resolution to criminal activity since "justice" is imparted by the same corrupt system that creates the injustice to begin with. If people would be free to associate and create their own communities outside of the control of the State, crime would be dealt with accordingly and voluntarily, without the State being involved, rendering lobbyists useless.
I prefer the term "freedom" to "capitalism", but crony capitalism is a good term for the straw man that socialists rail against in order to proffer their marxist solutions against the God-given right to own property and produce wealth.
A friend from work read me a quote once that stated:
"Conservatives believe that the government controls the corporations. Liberals believe the corporations control the government."
Marxism is not the answer to criminal activity. Justice is.
Wow...thank for all your work on this. It's fascinating to get deep into the chambers of local governments and see what is going on behind some of the doors. I am especially interested in the AR ordinance as I am working on getting my own license.
Once or if it gets to City Council, who knows what they will do with it. The choice is theirs!
One thing is for sure, the more people who take an interest in it and speak-up the clearer the majority will be heard. For now I will keep people updated on the progress of it and any new topics before the commission or council. In a day or two I will post some history, just checking facts right now, then it will be ready.
Some interesting progress on a restrictive Amateur Radio Ordinance too, it may or may not be meeting current Federal Regulations? More later on that too!
I understand time is limited, but 3 minutes? And have they done any economic impact analysis on this to see what the impact would be on the city and the economic activity within city limits?
If the city council is truly interested in truthful considerations, they should mail a copy of this proposal to every resident and start a year long hearing process to get as many people involved as possible.
Well, Virgil's got a point here, like him or not. Most states are open carry states, and the police officers should know that. The "right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is a fundamental Constitutional right that I thought they taught to elementary school kids, there is no reason why Beavercreek Police shouldn't know that.
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Are we sure that the police are the real problem in this situation? Truth is, a group of gun fanatics which the author Virgil Vaduva is part of strap guns to their belts like the wild west and attempt to draw the attention of the public along with police. They attempt to lure the police into taking legal action against them so they can scream about rights violations and draw negativity and lawsuits. Sounds to me like Virgil and his narcissistic crew need a lot of attention to make them feel good about themselves. I'm all for citizens owning and carrying CONCEALED guns for protection. I'm not at all for guys like this author who uncooperatively taunt police under the guise of civil rights. Shame on you Virgil
Virgil,
Unfortunately, the problems you describe are not just local to Xenia; they are practically everywhere in the US. The people have lost the concept of the rule of law, so they don't notice when their own governments are breaking the law. Nor do they seem to care much.
I've been searching, and one thing I cannot find. Sure, you can name a town that's known for its art, or its music, or its antiques. You can even name some cities that are known for their geographic beauty or their history. But can anyone name a town in the US that is known for having a just and uncorrupted government?
Jack Pelham
www.ruleoflawrestoration.com
I can agree with the general good-natured tone of the letter. Being courteous and polite to folks is preferable to acting vicious and nasty. But one wonders what they mean by "the dangers of assumptions and stereotypes about one's beliefs."
It may be presumptuous to infer the day-to-day Muslim would react with violence toward any who would burn the Koran. Granted. He may or may not. But I don't need to assume how a typical Islamic leader will react. Not at all. He'd kill the infidel. Period.
I, for one, am weary of the soft-peddling this issue receives.
That's a good observation of old "Honest Abe," whose federal reign was the very antithesis of States' rights. We may not be far from having that scenario repeated. After all, if the State of Arizona cannot act, seeking to enforce existing federal law the federal government refuses to enforce, without receiving a backlash from Washington, imagine how bent out of shape Washington would get when a State opts to secede. You will note I did not say if.
Your man Jefferson also stated that "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Both groups water the tree. The tyrant dies because his tyranny becomes unacceptable, and he does not relinquish his despotic rule sans death. The patriot bleeds because he resists what the common man has already accepted, i.e. temporary safety in lieu of essential liberty.
Were there no tyrants, there would be no need for a patriot or two. But our current circumstance is hardly novel; that foul stench blowing down from Washington has been a long time reeking.
If you are aware of a conspiracy behind these events, please drop me a note and I would be happy to report on it...there is no hidden agenda here. If you have evidence of misconduct, share it and we''ll investigate. The timing does in fact appear suspect, but it could also be just an appearance.
Interesting that there are several accounts of this incident including the kids parents asking that it be dropped. Suddenly someone decides to pull it back out and make a big deal about it. Is this a cover up to sneak something pass the citizens? While this is making headlines what is going on on page 2? I do not trust anyone in power in this town anymore. There are too many unanswered questions in this matter.
Why did it take almost 2 months for this to be front page news? Why did this get opened after Mr. Louderback questioned the Council? Was there another vehicle involved and what does that driver say? Why did the driver want this all dropped and afraid it would hurt his military career?
Isn't this a breach of contract, or no?
Nice writing. And thanks for taking her for me. ;)
What exactly would a course in American history tell me that would convince me that the flag is not a temporary physical symbol of the indestructible idea of freedom?
You have demonstrated my point, by being willing to crush the freedom of political speech of others because you are emotionally upset by their actions. That is how freedom is lost.
Why should it be made an illegal act?
The symbol of freedom is not tantamount to the notion of freedom itself. The flag should never be confused with the Republic, for the latter is always greater. The respect we afford The Stars and Stripes may be misplaced, to the extent we fail in our duty as citizens to secure liberty for the next generation.
The issue isn't the desecration of a hallowed icon of blood-bought freedom from tyranny. The gist of the matter is liberty itself, in whatever form it is symbolized.
But more to the point, if your actions deprive no one of property or liberty--flag-burning comes to mind--then I've no business enacting legislation which prohibits you from doing something I don't like.
That's freedom.
It's not hampered by my personal etiquette. It's not bounded by your likes and dislikes. It's not even governed by our sense of national pride. Freedom means I'm at liberty to govern myself, as I see fit, so long as I do you no harm.
Honored Veteran, don't be too quick to suggest which cherished opinions of yours ought to be made into law. Far lesser men than you have done so, and continue to do so, as our present profligate government testifies. Thus, the freedom you rightfully and proudly served to protect is today but a hollow shell of what it used to be.
Jefferson uttered: "Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."
Kind Sir, I respectfully suggest *you* take a course in American history.
Good work... it's kinda scary to see how little we know about Children Services sometimes.
Well Sir, I would have to agree with you that most people would take offense to the burning of the flag because they see it as a blatanly anti-American act; a spit in the eye and a slap in the face to every hard-working God-fearing American and every soldier that ever fought for our freedom.
I served 20 years in the Military and am proud of the service that I did for my country. If I had it to do all over again, I would definitely do it.
Sure you could go burn a flag, but don't ask for any help from me nor will I condone it. In my opinion it should be illegal to burn the flag except when doing so to properly and honorably dispose of a used flag.
As for the flag being a temporary physical symbol, I respectfully suggest you take a course in American history.
As an Army veteran, it won't be the first item I reach for when I wish to burn a symbol to make a statement. Honestly, it won't. However, if I do feel like burning it--and I might--then I expect to do so without someone's illogical and insensitive laws attempting to regulate my offensive liberties.
In other words, I refuse to entertain someone's fetish concerning the flag.
You put it well: burning a flag is a perceived assault on our freedom. Let those cry over it who will, as they likely perceive little else.
Fairborn at least is listening to and talking to residents...maybe at least just pretending, but at least they are going through the motions. The Xenia City Council is not even pretending anymore!
Disappointing, no matter my opinion of the levy or income stream...to place the Levy in Xenia back on the ballot, with out really trying to talk with the public, is a bit insulting. At least a town hall or public meeting should have been held, or even written opinions asked for. No attempt, to my knowledge, to find out what it would take to pass a levy, with a clearer margin then 1%...if the same plan is ran and passes, would we not then have to run it again to have a tie-breaker, Ha-Ha...I joke, but seriously. How do you market the same product after 1/2 your citizens did not buy it?
Bravo sir,
A little bit of honesty would go a long way. The most unfortunate part of it all is... they are not merely deceive us, but themselves as well.
I do see some advantage to marrying ones dog though. When things get too, ummm... difficult to bear, you can simply have your... partner? put to sleep.
Many liberals are actually themselves "corporate cronies" so they may not control the government in a conspiratorial sense, but they have a great amount of influence on government policies; if this was not true, we would not have the huge number of lobbyists in washington.
The latest number I saw was 34,750 for the number of registered lobbyists in D.C. - those are the legit ones. Probably there are 4 times as many who are working underground to sway and move politicians to create laws and regulations to favor their corporate clients. Crony capitalism rules our nation right now...I don't think only liberals believe that.
Freedom would be the resolution to criminal activity since "justice" is imparted by the same corrupt system that creates the injustice to begin with. If people would be free to associate and create their own communities outside of the control of the State, crime would be dealt with accordingly and voluntarily, without the State being involved, rendering lobbyists useless.
I prefer the term "freedom" to "capitalism", but crony capitalism is a good term for the straw man that socialists rail against in order to proffer their marxist solutions against the God-given right to own property and produce wealth.
A friend from work read me a quote once that stated:
"Conservatives believe that the government controls the corporations. Liberals believe the corporations control the government."
Marxism is not the answer to criminal activity. Justice is.
Wow...thank for all your work on this. It's fascinating to get deep into the chambers of local governments and see what is going on behind some of the doors. I am especially interested in the AR ordinance as I am working on getting my own license.
Once or if it gets to City Council, who knows what they will do with it. The choice is theirs!
One thing is for sure, the more people who take an interest in it and speak-up the clearer the majority will be heard. For now I will keep people updated on the progress of it and any new topics before the commission or council. In a day or two I will post some history, just checking facts right now, then it will be ready.
Some interesting progress on a restrictive Amateur Radio Ordinance too, it may or may not be meeting current Federal Regulations? More later on that too!
I understand time is limited, but 3 minutes? And have they done any economic impact analysis on this to see what the impact would be on the city and the economic activity within city limits?
If the city council is truly interested in truthful considerations, they should mail a copy of this proposal to every resident and start a year long hearing process to get as many people involved as possible.
Just my suggestion.
Richard Trumka president of AFL-CIO said "There is no reason for a union worker to vote against Barack Obama."
These guys can play ball hard and well.